Tuesday, June 25, 2024

renting is paying off your landlords mortgage? lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQt6ZhCd4Sk

i just watched this honey money sg video where he say that


not sure to laugh or cry

this is what i mean when i say that the level of sg finfluenzas are so low quality


ofc easy for him to say since he has a hdb bto

hdbs have the best yield wrt current market price

and btos are severely underpriced due to govt subsidies

if you rent a hdb then ya he is quite right


he lucked into being half right that in sg it is indeed good to build up home equity (if hdb) since most people are so bad at all other types of investing (low opportunity cost) and govt subsidies guarantees that hdb btos are practically no-loss investments


but that is a unique case of hdbs

there are plenty of private properties that even after being rented, are still cashflow negative for the landlord once you consider all the expenses

also, most people incorrectly value their own labor in the administration of such properties as $0/hr


in fact, for high end properties, renters are getting subsidized by landlords to help cover most (not all) of their property investment costs

this applies to even more properties after the recent hike to property tax for non owner occupied aka investment units

such properties rely exclusively on capital gains for the landlords to eventually make money when they realize gains and sell, all while alternating between bleeding cash or breaking even until that happens

you might think that doesnt make sense and why would landlords speculate on capital gains rather than rely on the "stable" rental income of their investment property, but hello my friend, the china and south korea property market are even worse that sg with gross yields under 2%

after taxes and expenses? big fat negative

thats what i mean when i say, rentors are being subsidized


gross yields mean nothing, just like entreprenuers talking revenue numbers

only uneducated fools are impressed

tell me the net profit or gtfo

and just like that, that is what is important when purely considering the financial aspect of rent vs buy


but even beyond the financial reasons, there are good non-financial reasons to NOT rent, like stable environment (esp for families) and renovating for specific living space

there are also good reasons to always rent, even if it costs a lot more, like career and lifestyle flexibility

you cant really put a firm price on such things, but surely they are valuable to some people, and worth it to them to pay more, if they had to


hearing people say stupid things like "renting is bad" really makes me sick


him thinking that renting is a waste of money goes to show how basic and low level his understanding of finance is, clearly not a holistic approach

its funny to me that i am a harsh critic especially when i see so much of my younger self thinking in him


anyway money honey like to say "supercharge" this and supercharge that

but the simple answer to why your NW will "supercharge" as it gets bigger is simple

your expenses do not scale with NW, but lifestyle desires, so fixed expenses as a % of NW becomes smaller relative to your asset base due to continued savings and bigger absolute returns from that larger base


the 100,000 number of "supercharging" is not a magical threshold

if your NW is $95K or $120K, it will still feel about the same


he also said something i very strongly disagree with

higher NW can participate in better investment opportunities because you have higher quantum? 

bull shit

give MH SG a $100M dummy portfolio and he can go access all his different super special higher quantum investment opportunities while i put 100% into s&p 500 and watch me outperform from day 1 to infinity


honey money really is not joking when he says his content is not financial advice but rather financial entertainment

2 comments:

  1. Been renting in SG for the last 15 years and managed to grow my NW to mid 7 digits in the meantime while 'throwing money down the drain'. Even people with fully paid up property do not realize it cost them a shitload in opportunity cost just to stay in them. Folks sitting on 2mio fully paid property (at 4% RFR) paying 80k/year before taxes, maintenance etc. thinking people who pay 60k/year in equivalent rent is throwing away money need to get their head checked.

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    1. 15 yrs ago diff story. no absd, no ratio, low interest, v good opportunity to capitalize. buy, rent, then flip. pump abit more money in and upgrade. do this 2-3 times can get basic landed already. Entry for a basic landed now is near mid 7

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